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Poster: Bumr50 Date: Nov 5, 2008 6:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Well...

As a conservative I can tell you that we are in need of MAJOR reform, and Sarah Palin as a republican simply won't fit.
We need to put the old republican party out of it's misery for good and begin anew, and many such as myself feel that a name change is in order if only to distance ourselves from the wishy-washy RINOs and the Eastern ivy league boys club. All in all I think that this election cycle has been a positive one in that Americans are more engaged than they have been since perhaps the early 1900's.
As an individualist and a libertarian, I've been able to share, change, and shape views with many more people than I ever thought possible.
I wish Barack Obama the best of luck, with the realization that he doesn't have a filibuster proof majority in the senate and will have to sacrifice some of the nanny state policies he's outlined. Thank heaven for checks and balances, the brilliance of the founding fathers, and freedom!
It's a great day to be an American!

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Nov 5, 2008 7:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Well...

That's the best post I've seen from a conservative on this forum, perhaps ever.

Intelligent, thoughtful, yet without abdicating your own viewpoint. Wish there were more like you.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 5, 2008 7:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Well...

Morning grendel -

There are some more of us "conservatives" out here. Unfortunately in most cases we choose not to engage in debate in forums and venues where we are the clear minority.

Not because of people like yourself who are clearly capable of polite debate and respectful disagreement (I've been lurking), but because of the wild eyed, narrow minded, mouth breathers who immediately ramp it up to a flame war. And don't for a minute think I believe that my side of the aisle doesn't have its share of the above mentioned cretins.

Thanks for a simple, yet very expressive post - Be Well my firend.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Nov 5, 2008 8:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Well...

...and thank you for your note, Mandojammer.

I actually think there are quite a few conservative voices here, and I never object to hearing points of view other than my own. I completely agree that what's lacking is a tone of respect and thoughtful difference of opinion.

what drives me nuts are the sweeping mean-spirited posts, a la "myreus" or whatever he calls himself, that are so nonsensical and bereft of fairness based on fact as to demand an almost equally invective response. I have to hold myself back from really flying off the handle and I'm not always successful, so I appreciate your qualifying my posts as generally polite and respectful.

It's one thing to disagree about Obama's policies... his plans for taxation or health care...but to say idiotic things like he was "created by the media"--which completely discounts his origins working his way up from the streets of Chicago to the senate to here...and to blame Clinton for Bin Laden....when 9/11 happened on Bush';s watch (and can you imagine the blame that would have been heaped by that same individual had Clinton still been in office when that went down), just defies belief.

I just wish we could have reasonable, respectful arguments of differing opinion based on fact rather than hyperbole or thinly veiled prejudice. We'd all enjoy this forum much more and eventually realize that--hey!--we're all here in the first place b/c we actually share a love for the music of the Grateful Dead! That's really the binding factor (or it should be), and shows we're not as far apart as we seem.

anyway, thanks again for reaching out.